THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary _____________________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release June 19, 1996 PRESS BRIEFING (Excerpts) BY MIKE MCCURRY The Briefing Room Q The Associated Press is reporting that Bruce Lindsey will be named an unindicted co-conspirator in the Little Rock Whitewater trial that has just begun. MR. MCCURRY: I believe, if I'm not mistaken, they reported that last night. Q No, they said "might be," but now they say he has been. MR. MCCURRY: That would be -- it was reported that it would likely happen last night. There was a statement from Mr. Snyder, his attorney, and a statement from Mr. Lindsey that's available. Q Is the White House -- does that impact on his job here at the White House? MR. MCCURRY: We are fully aware that that was likely going to happen based on the comments of his attorney. And what is significant is that in many long months of inquiry he was not indicted. ................................................................... Q So, Mike, just to follow up on your answer to Wolf's question, we shouldn't expect any change in Mr. Lindsey's employment status at the White House? MR. MCCURRY: I haven't heard anything to indicate that, no. Q Has Mr. Lindsey offered to the President or anybody else here at the White House to resign? MR. MCCURRY: Well, he's had a discussion long ago with the President, and that question was raised long ago, and his circumstances involving the matter that's now being litigated in court haven't changed either. Q Mike, again following up on Wolf's question. You just said what's significant is that after many months of inquiry he wasn't indicted. Are you saying that being an unindicted coconspirator is -- the White House isn't concerned -- MR. MCCURRY: Well, what that means is not entirely clear. Kevin, you're looking anxious. What's going on, man. Just tell us. How's the world? (Laughter.) What news? Q Breaking news. MR. MCCURRY: Breaking news. (Laughter.) Q Mike, for a lot -- Q Put CNN on. (Laughter.) Q Mike, for a lot of people, you know, Lindsey is just a name to, say, the public. Could you explain what his role is these days, what kinds of things he advises the President on and what he does? MR. MCCURRY: Well, he's been involved in a lot of things in his role as counselor to the President. He has worked most recently on securities litigation. As you all know, he travels on occasion with the President. But, look, he has said under oath that he has done nothing wrong, and we have no reason to doubt his word. For more than a year he cooperated with the independent counsel. He cooperated with Congress, responding to every question about the 1990 gubernatorial campaign and about Perry County Bank. And he'll soon get a chance to testify in public about the facts. And he welcomes the opportunity to do so. Q Mike, two days ago you said the fact that Craig Livingstone had said under oath that he had done nothing wrong was the reason he wasn't being put on leave. What's the difference between the -- MR. MCCURRY: Well, I mean, these are entirely different situations. No person -- I hope you would not want automatic comparisons in your own personnel situation compared to some other reporter. You want people to evaluate situations on a case-by-case basis. And I think that's fair. Q Mike, the question I'm asking is that you cited the other day a sworn affidavit that said nothing wrong was done as a reason why someone should not be suspended. MR. MCCURRY: That's correct. Q That person was subsequently suspended despite the sworn oath. MR. MCCURRY: No, that's -- no actually -- actually, that's not correct. Q The person was subsequently put on leave. MR. MCCURRY: I said there was no punitive action taken against Mr. Livingstone and, indeed, there has not been any punitive action taken against Mr. Livingstone because there's no evidence that I'm aware of that's available to this White House that contradicts his sworn statement. That is still true today. His request to be placed on administrative leave deals with the management of that office and deals with his own concerns and the concerns that the Chief of Staff has -- that that in no way prejudices a claim of punitive action. And I -- again, I'd say I'm not aware of any evidence that contradicts that claim. ..................................................................... Q Mike, getting back to Mr. Lindsey, do you expect any nonpunitive action to be taken against him? MR. MCCURRY: Not that I'm aware of, no. Q Can you clarify? I'm kind of a little confused on the Craig Livingstone's situation. You're saying no punitive action has been taken, but -- MR. MCCURRY: That is not a disciplinary action. Q But your Chief of Staff has concerns that might prevent his returning to his job. MR. MCCURRY: Correct. Correct. He can't -- he will not return from administrative leave until the Chief of Staff's concerns are satisfied, until the matter is clarified. That's what the White House legal counsel indicated. But that's different from saying that there is some grounds for disciplinary action against Mr. Livingstone, because that has to be established based on whatever the facts are and we're in the process of establishing the facts. I think that's pretty -- I hope that's clear to everybody, that there ought to be a distinction there. Q Different subject. Just out of curiosity, how much of a ceremony are you all planning here tomorrow for the Olympic torch? MR. MCCURRY: Tomorrow, when it arrives? I think it's coming during the middle of a congressional picnic that hopefully won't be rained out like the press picnic last night. But they will have a welcoming moment when it arrives here; but on Friday morning is when he will actually do a public ceremony and have some things. ....................................................................... MR. MCCURRY: Whatever. A day, two days, whatever. He (Clinton) is going to do a very brief thing when it arrives here and saying hello to the torch and put it to bed for the night. (Laughter.) Q But not on the White House lawn, right? MR. MCCURRY: Which is a very elaborate -- apparently a very elaborate proceeding, I am told. Q But no flame on the White House lawn, we hear. It can't be on the grounds; is that right? MR. MCCURRY: Yes, it's going to be down -- they were going to put it -- I was told they were putting it down by the South Lawn so the tourists can see it from the Ellipse. Q In case it explodes. MR. MCCURRY: It's not sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom. (Laughter.) THE PRESS: Thank you. END 1:25 P.M. EDT
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